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2009-04-21

23:09 jayallen http://hackingmt.com/wiki/Open[…]ion#Running_Tally
23:10 jayallen We've got the list down to about 7 names (with possible other coming in from those left to rank).  Please rank your names now.
23:10 jayallen Currently, it's Melody, Texet, Larkspur, Hansa, Harmonic, Janata and Talkoot in order or rank.
23:11 jayallen But only three of us have ranked them
23:12 jayallen You DO NOT have to rank all five if you only like less than 5 names.

2009-04-18

09:17 Su That one I just didn't like.
09:18 Su ...though it did make me think of GIGO.
09:18 jayallen the top 5 thus far: melody, larkspur, harmonic, janata, ignite
09:18 Su I think Ignite is out.
09:18 jayallen ?

2009-04-08

20:12 jayallen Berkeley Software Distribution
20:13 jayallen heh
20:13 girliegeek but open larkspur or open bamboo don't carry their own meaning the way open melody does
20:13 jayallen not sure I get your meaning.
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2009-04-03

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01:31 markstos Larkspur has gotten points for its feminine sensibility, since it's a flower. I agree about that. But as a word, a sound, it has a masculine side. It has the hard "k" sound of "lark", like "truck", and  "spur" on its own evokes cowboy spurs, a bit of the wild west, but a spur itself is a also a bit technology, an older, more humanized cousin to the generic "gear" icon we see for software projects. You can see spur photos here, includ
01:31 markstos ing cowboy spurs and a generic gear icon: http://images.google.com/images?q=spur  ... but in summary, I think it's a brand that's got both hard and soft sides, and that's part of the appeal to me.
01:36 Plasticmind markstos: I think we've sidelined justifying our choices until next Friday :)

2009-04-02

00:04 byrnereese Man, I would really hate to choose a name because we are simply sick of the process, or because nothing else grabbed us. I feel the same way about Larkspur too, but let's not *settle* on anything.
00:05 markstos Oh, I just walked into the middle of a naming conversation.
00:05 * markstos looks for the IRC logs link so he can backlog
00:06 markstos I see Larkspur is in the lead now, based on the wiki?
00:07 markstos I was glad to see the move to MediaWiki for the wiki, BTW.
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00:18 markstos This seems like a good point for me to touch base with a contact at Larkspur Press and make sure they don't have any objection (although i don't think this step is strictly necessary). It seems most likely to generate more interest and recognition of Larkspur Press if anything.  Since Larkspur the publishing platform and Larkspur press don't compete at all, I don't see there being a problem.
00:22 markstos Larkspur Press is so old school, they don't appear to use e-mail
00:29 markstos I see that larkspurpress.com even does typesetting on their website the old fashioned way, with class names like ".mainlink_11px_arial_green"
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00:55 markstos I would of course be discrete and appropriately vague when/if I contact Larkspur, respecting the current level of privacy.
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12:26 Plasticmind :P
12:26 Plasticmind sure
12:26 Plasticmind http://skitch.com/plasticmind/[…]dr/larkspur-color
12:26 Plasticmind http://skitch.com/plasticmind/bkea2/larkspur-blue
12:26 Plasticmind http://skitch.com/plasticmind/bkerg/larkspur-bw
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12:38 Plasticmind do me a favor and read my writeup over at:
12:38 Plasticmind http://hackingmt.com/w/index.p[…]e=Name_Brainstorm
12:38 Plasticmind specifically under Larkspur
12:38 Plasticmind would love to know what you think about my proposed approach
12:40 girliegeek well i'm all for putting some feminine sensibility to it :)
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18:04 tappnel jayallen: i don't mind a bit of domain name squatting expense to even if we don't use it. mayeb some other web 2 oh group will want me to sell it to them. For ONE. MILLION. DOLLARS. muhahaha. ;
18:05 tappnel So if we aren't digging Larkspur -- what about the constellations or planets?
18:08 Su http://bugs.movabletype.org/?79552
18:08 Su Oh, I get it. We're waiting for the one-year anniversary to fix this, right?
18:44 jayallen And I know that if *I* personally went out and bought some domain names, I would be unconsciously over-invested in it
18:44 jayallen Despite the price
18:44 arvind so is Larkspur out?
18:44 jayallen I don't think anyone isn't digging Larkspur.  We're just being thorough at this point
18:45 jayallen I like Hawaiian
18:45 jayallen both of those are good, add em!
18:45 arvind yeah because i really like what Plasticmind has been doing with the branding brainstorms for Larkspur
18:45 arvind I especially like the flower/petals idea
18:45 arvind (just going through the past days' logs)
18:49 Plasticmind I'm asking what's wrong with actually pursuing a name
18:49 Plasticmind I feel like we're window shopping
18:49 arvind yeah if we all like Larkspur and we're satisfied with the branding
18:49 arvind what's stopping us?
18:49 arvind I don't think any one name is going to resonate with everyone one of us
18:49 Plasticmind are we expecting that to happen?
18:49 arvind so I think something that the majority likes is going to be what we should roll with
18:50 Su I don't think "we all like Larkspur" is accurate, at least not from what I've been seeing. Nobody seems to have any particular /objection/ to it. But I don't think anyone is particularly nuts about it, either.
18:50 Plasticmind also, it seems like there's an aversion to being sold on a name
18:50 Plasticmind I'm nuts about it
18:51 Plasticmind Relate: I don't think any of you get nuts about anything
18:51 arvind I feel like I'll only be nuts about something when the name has some momentum behind it
18:51 jayallen I'm not *crazy* about Larkspur but I think it's workable
18:51 Plasticmind see: Su's indifference
18:51 arvind and it means something more than a word
18:52 Plasticmind it's like dating :)
18:52 jayallen I personally don't see a strong movement towards any name yet.  I see certain people getting excited for particular names, but no real group concensus.  No momentum.
18:53 Plasticmind mark suggested larkspur, so he is obviously keen on it
18:53 Plasticmind arvind and girlie seemed to like the name
18:53 jayallen Yes.
18:53 arvind at some point, we're just going to have to pick one from what we have
18:54 jayallen yep
18:54 arvind and I feel like Larkspur has the most momentum behind it
18:54 Plasticmind I also feel like it wasn't my first choice, but it seemed to be more well accepted
18:54 arvind of all the others we've come up with

2009-04-01

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01:18 markstos I added comments on a number of the names: http://hackingmt.com/wiki/Name_Brainstorm
01:19 markstos I'm partial to "larkspur", but it's also one I suggested.
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15:19 Plasticmind really like Larkspur
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15:31 byrnereese good morning agan
15:31 leftsider Plasticmind: found it. thanks a lot!
15:32 byrnereese larkspur - yes
15:32 byrnereese thit-aly
15:32 byrnereese titali
15:34 Plasticmind well, working on some branding brainstorms first
15:34 Plasticmind got some beautiful rawelements
15:34 Plasticmind and working on a nice larkspur logo
15:35 Plasticmind http://skitch.com/plasticmind/[…]kspur-in-progress
15:35 Plasticmind again, brainstorming
15:35 Plasticmind this is my photoshop doodling
15:36 Plasticmind http://skitch.com/plasticmind/[…]px/larkspur-title
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15:46 danwolfgang I wish I could find the time to get involved with all this OM stuff. I'm not ignoring the project or the rest of you guys; things have just been crazy.
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16:47 Plasticmind My case for using Larkspur:
16:47 Plasticmind Larkspur will tap into something that's been severely overlooked by most publishing platforms: feminine sensibility.  In other words, we have a very strong development team, no doubt about it; but Larkspur could help define for us an overarching principle: make it easy to do great things with the app.  We've been using "human" as our touchstone characteristic, but "human" can mean many things.  If we go the route Ninten
16:51 tappnel Just jumping in here.
16:51 tappnel Plastimind: "If we go the route Ninten" ???
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17:30 tappnel true. just throwing it out there.
17:34 Plasticmind More Larkspur identity brainstorming:
17:34 Plasticmind http://skitch.com/plasticmind/bkgh9/larkspur
17:34 Plasticmind the logo obviously needs work, but it's getting there
17:35 tappnel That name is (excuse the pun) growing on me.
17:42 tappnel anyway, i'm on the job and thinking about how we get to where we want and how to prioritize.
17:43 tappnel damn. one last thought jumped in my head Plasticmind.
17:44 tappnel It would be cool if the Larkspur logo looked like it was done with a movable type press -- engraved or wood block but and then pressed/stamped.
17:44 tappnel ok. writing on testing and more. must. focus.
17:45 Plasticmind tappnel: like so - http://skitch.com/plasticmind/bkg6g/iconic
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18:05 Plasticmind Larkspur visual brainstorm, large: http://img.skitch.com/20090401[…]bkepji2miq5s6.png
18:06 CIA-39 mtplugins: breese * r1507 ConfigAssistant/ (3 files in 3 dirs): escaped html in config assistant forms
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18:17 jayallen I like where you guys are going and Larkspur is growing on me as well.
18:18 jayallen Tim's absolutely right about the name though.  Even "publisher" may be too restricting
18:18 jayallen We can't say what this thing will be in 1yr much less 5 years
18:31 Su Plasticmind, you're in the reseller program, right? What version comes down as a result of that?
18:32 Su I'm guessing this person/host maybe isn't supposed to be redistributing MT.
18:32 jayallen did anyone do a domain/twitter/etc search for larkspur?
18:33 jayallen taken taken taken taken
18:33 Plasticmind http://larkspur.org/
18:33 Su On its own, it's taken. larkspurcms is open. larkspurpublisher also.
18:33 jayallen I'd prefer larkspurapp or getlarkspur
18:35 Plasticmind *SPURRAPP-P-P*
18:36 Plasticmind ha, the center thing looks like a Peep bunny:
18:36 Plasticmind http://skitch.com/plasticmind/[…]yw/larkspur-large
18:36 Plasticmind gotta work on that
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18:42 Plasticmind as is twitter @larksper
18:43 Plasticmind and you could make the argument that the er turns it into "a thing which does"
18:44 Su @larkspurapp is free. @larkspur is taken but never used, so might be stealable.
18:46 jayallen also the "those people can't spell" argument
18:46 jayallen getlarkspur is fine
18:46 jayallen and I'm sure we could get @larkspur
18:47 jayallen we know enough people and it's not used
18:49 leftsider Man, I was this close to asking a really stupid question.
19:34 jayallen So the Get Satisfaction has just proven that they are gracious and responsive to feedback about their service.
19:42 jayallen Can I *tell* you how much I love a wiki that shows you diffs?
19:48 Plasticmind Larkspur logo idea: http://skitch.com/plasticmind/bk8q8/larkspur
19:48 Plasticmind obviously not the "iconic" version
19:51 Su No longer a Peep bunny: http://is.gd/q9rj
21:00 byrnereese onalark
21:00 byrnereese i like that to
21:00 byrnereese although a "lark" and a "larkspur" are different of course
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21:03 jayallen clearly
21:03 jayallen I'm not bothered by app
21:03 jayallen but I think the other was better
21:04 Plasticmind Here's a b/w rendition of the larkspur logo: http://skitch.com/plasticmind/bk83q/larkspur-bw
21:04 Plasticmind specifically for tappnel ^^^^
21:04 Plasticmind :)
21:26 Su Are we?
21:26 byrnereese well - i am only acknowledging that momentum is building behind this
21:26 Su I mean, there's obviously been a focus on Larkspur today, but I just figured it was incidental.
21:26 byrnereese nothing is final
21:26 tappnel The design I worked with for my plugin icons and logos did that -- redrew each
21:29 tappnel Speaking of which. I must run for now.
21:29 Su It was kinda sad. I think it's possibly the first such service I've seen go like that.
21:30 tappnel I'm OK with Larkspur for what is worth.
21:30 tappnel The Larkspur Project (the name the british army gave their radio communications project) has a nice ring to it also.
21:33 Su byrnereese: Why offer to install to the document root? I thought that was pretty much a Bad Idea. Or does that mean a directory IN the root?
21:34 Su This one: http://hackingmt.com/wiki/File:ChooseFolder.png
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21:37 Plasticmind and to be honest, a silhouette of a stalk of flowers will look nothing but a mush
21:37 Plasticmind and you certainly wouldn't be able to pick up the distinctive larkspur shape
21:37 byrnereese Su: i am going to rework the beginning flow a little bit
21:37 byrnereese too much prompting for file paths
22:31 tappnel Plasticmind: done.
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22:33 Plasticmind tappnel: funny, almost feels more feminine - http://skitch.com/plasticmind/bked3/larkspur-blue
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22:33 neps is trac broken?
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23:21 jayallen tappnel: That may be premature.  I hope that doesn't end up being a loss.  I thought about registering them but stopped short because I didn't want to personally be invested in a particular domain and also didn't want to jinx the process.
23:22 jayallen we've made good progress and are at least not totally disagreeing on a name, but Larkspur still hasn't grabbed me like I feel one should.  I'm willing to ignore that if we find nothing else in a few days
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